Back packing with dogs. Question about tent?

Ruckus_luv

we are going on a 4 day back packing trip in late September and there is no way that Hubby, the dogs, and I can all fit in the tent! (to top it off I am plus sized, and hubby is super tall!)I guess I will get a bigger tent. Since we are back packing and it has to be a small lightweight tent I imagine it will still be crowded! I am scared to leave the dogs out of the tent.

Last year it was just Ruckus, hubby, and I. I had Ruckus tied to a tree next to the tent and he slept next to the tent and was 100% fine. Not scared, not barking, whining, etc. With two dogs tied next to the tent on a tree I can see it now. They will be tangled up together and looking pathetic.

There are no bears where we are back packing. But there are Coyotes.

What would you do if you were me? Get the biggest tent we can. Or have them outside next to the tent and not worry about them?
Thanks for all the help so far everyone. I still dont know what I want to do though. Would a coyote come that close to our tents? Or even my dogs? Ruckus is 45lbs, Lynn is 30

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I elect for just having them outside the tent. I guess your dog isn't trained to stay close by. If you have a threat of coyotes, I wouldn't leave them tied to a tree. If attacked before you can free the dogs, they may become meals. On one of our lake trips, our Pit was free on shore, but still had access back to our beached boat. She was chased back to our boat by a mountain lion. Our dogs may wander a short distance, but they always are within viewing range. If she was tethered, she would have been killed and dragged off. I'd get a big enough tent so everyone can fit inside comfortably.

We usually have friends with dogs too. Nobody ever tethers their dogs when we camp. We've never lost a dog either.

camping TENTS??? (pic)?

Madison B

Can i get those cute little kids camping sets a like wal mart? Or where else?
ones like these:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51mZEsbU36L._SL500_.jpg
or
http://www.bossgoo.com/photo/product4/775319/product-Kids-Camping-3pcs-Set.jpg
and also: it doesnt have to be all cutsey, just like a smaller sizze.
thanks in advance



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also, are they like SUPER small? cause its for my 13 year old, she said she wanted a tiny, cozy and content one like that. (x

ALSO: cause i am pretty sure i have seen them in the wal mart stores but they are not online so i was a little worried.
thanks guys.

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These kinds of items like in the picture, including anything with a cartoon character on it, are more of a toy than a serious piece of camping gear. They probably are not weatherproof for one, and I bet they aren't very durable.

But you can get "real" tents that are kid sized for different amounts of money. Here is a youth tent from TexSport

http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-Brookwood-Youth-Dome-Tent/dp/B001C0GWUE/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1269683114&sr=1-14

You can also get an authentic bivy shelter or a backpacker's or bicycler's tent. These are all small, lightweight, and minimalist design so they are easy to carry. They are used by adults with almost no room to spare, but for a child, they would still be pretty cozy, and they are meant for real camping. Note that the term bivy is used to describe both a sleeping bag cover, which you don't really want for this, and a narrow tent. Here is a search result page for those.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dsporting&field-keywords=bivy&x=0&y=0

You also may have some luck with a beach type shelter, including some pop up cabana type things which tend to have a small footprint, since they are used by people in a sitting position. These are meant for real use, but not necessarily camping. Many are meant for shade, but may not be waterproof or durable enough for any sort of campsite other than sand.

Just make sure whatever you get is meant for real use as a camping piece, that is has all the right working parts just like a grownup's, and is meant to be used outdoors instead of being set up in the playroom, etc.

EDIT: Your 13 year old will not fit in any play tent I have ever seen unless she is super small. Even if she did, she is bound to hit a growth spurt any day now. Go with a backpacking tent or a bivy shelter! It will be plenty cozy...this is past the age of toy tents in my opinion. If she is showing interest in camping, get her some real gear and teach her how to do it right!

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Mommies what sunscreen do you use on your little one ?

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I <3 Izzy.

I am trying to find a good sunscreen for my 5 month old!

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Actually, sunscreen is not typically recommended for babies under 6 months. It is better to keep her in the shade wearing lightweight clothing that covers her body, including a hat for her head, if you plan to be outside for an extended period of time. A beach umbrella or a cabana style sun tent is good if natural shade isn't available. Unless your doctor approves, I'd steer clear of sunscreen until she's 6 months old. Her doctor will also be able to make some suggestions as to the type of sunscreen to use. Depending on where you live, different types are recommended. In general, if the sunscreen is hypoallergenic and protects in a non-chemical way (look for the ingredients zinc oxide or titanium dioxide), it would be good for babies to use.

What are the different types of tents?

Jack

There is something to consider before deciding to buy a tent for there are large variety of tents. Can any experienced one intro. the styles and your favorite style or creative style ones?

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ââDome Tent
The dome tent: These tents owing to their shape are most spacious and can be divided into rooms as well. Can fit a single person or a family as they come in both individual and family sizes. Easy to carry by backpackers, it is very popular in camping. Its shape makes it more heat efficient. The tents have a ârainflyâ which is water proof and helps in keeping the interior dry. So depending on what type of group you have Dome tents have various options. Even the windows come in clear or mesh options. Dividers are available if you need more privacy in the family dome tents. The family tents also have the option of tafetta walls to make it more sturdy. Dome tents are very easy to move if you decide to shift to any other location close by. The most important thing is it is very stable in windy conditions.
ââcabin tent
The cabin tent: Well, if you plan to go car camping and need room to stand then the cabin tent is your best bet. The cabin tents are big enough that you can actually park your car inside it. It is a huge tent that was designed for camping with your car. Some of them stand as tall as 8 ft giving it the room to have a party as well. . These tents are made with heavy material which helps for long durable. These are also exclusively used for hosting backyard parties, or for bigger family groups that go on camping.
ââgeodesic tents
The geodesic tent: These tents were introduced by the Buckminster Fuller. He was an engineer, author, inventor. Mr. Fuller was the one who introduced the geodesic dome in buildings. The geodesic dome is based on âtensegrityâ structures such as tetrahedron, octahedron which are a net of continuous structures that do not touch each other but form closely bound spheres which is just enough to not make them touch each other but also have enough tension in them to make them separate spatially to form a sphere.
The geodesic tents have become popular because of its design as it requires minimum material and provides a large space. This concept is specially useful in tents as there is a central pole which gives it additional strength in high wind conditions as there are no weak points and is easy for one person to set it up. Geodesic tents are heat efficient and spacious like the other tents but their main selling point is the high strength and stability they provide.
ââTunnel tents
Tunnel tents: Tunnel tents or Mutli-hoop tents as they are also called are tents used both in camping, as a kids play area, even as tents for pets. Due to the ring structure in these tents they can give a good height. These are similar to A-frame tents but slightly heavier. A good tunnel tents must be at least 3 lbs in weight including the poles, guy lines and canopy panels This type of camping tent is a large standing free room tent. The tent is waterproof and is very easy to assemble. Another benefit of this tent is it has the capable of shedding heavy snow.
ââFolding tents
Folding tents: Folding tents are also known as popup canopies or instant gazebos are incredibly handy for events, festivals, promotions. Being a lightweight spacious and easy to setup as well as fold up is an ideal choice for moving around and quick set up. These tends usually do not need to be staked down but can sometimes require skylines attached to tress or stakes. Folding tent is easy to move to other places when it needs to be shifted within a short frame of time. It is ideal for hunting or camping.
ââ Umbrella Style tents
Umbrella style tents: They are like umbrella because they have only one supporting pole in the Centre of the tent. They are simple and light, but not the type of tent you want to be in during camping or hunting. Mostly ideal for sitting under on a beach or in the backyard for a party to have shade while you are in the sun.

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I want to disappear for a couple of years. Any suggestions?

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Mimza

as to where I should go and how I should live?

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Head out into the mountains with a backpacking tent and lightweight camping gear and just roam around. Or head to a resort where it's warm, get a job washing dishes, share a place and spend your days on the beach.

Planning for a long walking trip?

Atticus Fi

2 friends and I are planning a walking trip along the west coast from San Diego to Seattle.Any advice on preparations? 2 of us will be carrying hiking backpacks and the other one of those all terrain carts to put stuff in. We will be bringing 27 cans of food that can be easily cooked . We will each start out by carrying 8 water bottles and purchases more on the way.I think it is fair for each of us to carry $200 for supplies.Should we pack my water purifier because I feel like we'll break it some how. We will also be packing first aid, 2 packs of moist wipes,glasses clean/repair kit,gps,cell phone. W e will be wearing jeans/cargo pants, a 5.11 shirt ,sweater, and a boonie hat.Also according to California penal section code 12370 we can wear body armor because our activities are lawful correct?We have 2 level ii kevlar vest and a stab proof vest. I think we will begin our trip on june 20th,2014.The distance between san diego and seattle is about 1260 miles,so that would be like 360 hours of walking.If we walk for 12 hours a day we should reach our destination in like a month? We will however stop at major cities like L.A. for a week and S.F. for 3 days?Should we just sleep on the beach when it is safe to do so because we a have a lightweight tent that can accomodate all 3 of us.I plan to start walking at Imperial beach. Any advice would gladly be appreciated because its been a dream of our for a long time now.
Also should we study the terrain on google maps or not.I think it will be resourceful but m friends want to go in blind because it adds suspense.Btw our average speed will be 3 mph.
Or should we start at petco park becuase near IB is confusing and I dont want to end up on coronado Island?We could follow the the 5 and the 8 and then walk along the shore in la jolla which I think would be easier.

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I think you're going to need a little more planning for this expedition. Many sections of freeway in California prohibit pedestrians, so you will need to get special access from the CHP and Caltrans to walk along the side of the freeways. Oregon and Washington may have similar laws. Additionally, you will need permission through areas like Camp Pendleton (or just get a ride through them).

You say you will be carrying 27 cans of cookable food and 8 bottles of water. On a hot day, each person might go through a gallon of water per day. You might also want a stove and fuel tanks. Where will you be sleeping at night when you can't find a public beach/campground? You are going to come across many sections with no public access - are you planning on camping illegally? staying in hotels or hostels? You don't mention sleeping bags or mattresses.

You should plan out each day based on where you plan to end the day - a campground or hostel or hotel or friends house.

I don't think your estimate of being able to sustain a pace of 36 miles a day (12 hours x 3 miles per hour) is reasonable. I don't even think that 24 miles a day (8 hours x 3 miles per hour) is sustainable. You will need days for nothing but rest, and you will also need to do things like shop for food and toiletries and footwear, or do some laundry. I would strongly recommend trekking poles to help take some of the weight off of your feet. If you backpack for more than two weeks, your feet will likely change shape, and you'll need to buy new footwear that fits the new shape.

Before you and your buddies go all in on this adventure, maybe try going out for a 4-5 days to see what it is like. Take the train to Santa Barbara and walk back to San Diego, and see how far you get, with planning out your route. Plus it will help get you in shape, physically and mentally. You'll also find out how much food you'll be going through to keep up the calorie intake needed to sustain all that hiking.

Also, ditch the body armor. That will just weigh you down and draw unwanted attention. If you're worried about getting shot or stabbed, you probably should do more research about where to go and where to avoid.

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